Watch: Philip Rosedale

Watch: Philip Rosedale “Philip Linden” & Wagner James “Hamlet” Au About the Rise of AI, VisionPro, and Making a Metaverse That Matters

UPDATE, July 28: Bumped up for weekend watching! And be sure to check out the interesting, somewhat ranty reader comments, and add some of your own.

Recorded at Linden Lab last week Friday, I’m honored to be the latest guest in Philip Rosedale’s new YouTube vlogast, where we do a deep dive on the past, present, and future of Second Life and other metaverse platforms. I have not seen Philip in person since the pandemic, so it was great to catch up, get a glimpse of his upcoming projects (more on those soon) and delve through Making a Metaverse That Matters and related topics.

It was a thorough chat, much of it dwelling on What We Might Have Done Differently with Second Life, and touches on famous SL personalities like Blueberry, AM Radio, and Bettina Tizzy. Here’s some other highlights:

  • 0:00 – Prologue
  • 1:50Will AI’s replace Actors?
  • 6:00 – Journalism in virtual worlds vs. IRL ?
  • 10:00 – Communicating with both text & voice
  • 11:58 – Would you say that you ‘lived’ in SL?
  • 13:50 – Walking through every SL sim
  • 14:45 – Second Life Mainland versus Islands
  • 16:50 – Would you have done SL teleporting differently?
  • 20:15 – What game does everyone want to play?
  • 25:15 – What did SL get right?
  • 28:14 – Are virtual worlds like Roblox good for kids?
  • 31:50 – Most interesting people and things in SL
  • 35:18 – What would you have done differently?
  • 43:34 – Can SL work on mobile?

More after the break!


  • 46:29 – The State of Play conference and getting past the Metaverse Age Cliff
  • 50:20 – Can virtual worlds make us better people?
  • 55:58 – The Love Machine
  • 58:45 – VRChat
  • 1:03:20 – Body movement without VR headsets
  • 1:05:00 – Why it’s very hard to change features on metaverse platforms, and the Tao of Linden
  • 1:10:03 – Web3 in virtual worlds?
  • 1:13:40 – Why curious generalists are good at creating virtual worlds
  • 1:16:15 – How Bitcoin vending machines in Second Life helped launched the cryptocurrency
  • 1:17:00 – Vision Pro?
  • 1:22:45 – What it was like for Philip to watch Facebook become Meta
  • 1:25:10 – ChatGPT and BunnyGPT
  • 1:27:00 – Why the Metaverse still generates more interest over ChatGPT
  • 1:31:35 – Advice for entrepreneurs

Disclosure: SF to LA travel costs and a nice sandwich generously provided by Philip and Linden Lab.

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